Kirkland's Asylum

darylrodger · Post by **darylrodger** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:57 pm

Hi,

I was wandering if anyone can tell me what kind of asylum Kirkland's was ? One of my hubby's ancestor's died there in 1910. Her name was Jessie Sime, nee Brander.

Thanks,

Daryl

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:44 pm

Hi Daryl

Have a look at
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/airgli/airgli0127.htm

It gives a bit of the history of the Asylum as well as all the other Glasgow hospitals.
As the name suggests it was a psychiatric hospital in the days before they had proper treatments for psychiatric conditions. Many confused, wandered elderly folk ended up in them too.

Russell

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:40 pm

darylrodger wrote:Hi,

I was wandering if anyone can tell me what kind of asylum Kirkland's was ? One of my hubby's ancestor's died there in 1910. Her name was Jessie Sime, nee Brander.

Thanks,

Daryl

Hello Daryl,

I transcribed the poorhouse application, Jessie's son made, while I was at The Mitchell today and now I've just noticed you live in Glasgow.

Would you like me to post it here or would you prefer to view it yourself at The Mitchell?

Kind regards,
Annette M

darylrodger · Post by **darylrodger** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:59 am

Hi Annette,

Wow! Thank you for doing that!

. Would you mind posting it on here, as I'm suffering from a prolapsed disc in my spine at the moment, and it's causing me a lot of pain,

so I can't manage a visit to the Mitchell.

Kind regards,

Daryl

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:08 pm

Hello Daryl,

Here is Jessie's application.

Son applies for her removal to asylum

Jessie Brander or Sime
10th July 1905
589 Dumbarton Road c/o McKilligan
Age 65 years b 29/7/40 at Ordiquhill, Banffshire
Prot. Md.

Daughter of Robert Brander, crofter and Elizabeth Dow b/d

Married on 6/1/66 at Ordiquhill by Rev. ?

Husband - John Sime, Timekeeper with Anchor Line age 63 years b 5/5/42 at Urquhart, Moray. Prot. Son of James Sime, blacksmith and Isabella Sime b/d

Family –
Isabella 39 years b. 1/6/66 at Ordiquhill md. no family to Alexander Thompson, Gold Miner, British Columbia. She at above address.

Robert 37 years b. 9/8/68 at Lhanbrydd md. 3 children, Railway shunter, 134 Aitkenhead Road, Glw s.s.

John 34 years b. 22/6/71 at Lhanbrydd md. 1 child, Grocer, 176 George St. Hillhead

Eliza 32 years b. 4/6/73 at Lhanbyrdd md. 1 child to George McKilligan, grocer, 589 Dumbarton Road, Partick with whom pauper lives.

James 23 b. 4/4/82 at Lhanbrydd, single, joiner, Box 6630 Johannesburg, S.A.

Settlement Govan
Certified insane
Applies for her removal to asylum, wage 22/- per week has no means.
With son in law in 3apt house

1910 Dec 22 died this date.

As you can see it's quite informative about her family.

Hope your back gets better soon.

Regards,
Annette M

darylrodger · Post by **darylrodger** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:31 pm

Hi Annette,

Thanks for posting the transcript of the Asylum application for poor Jessie.
It certainly shows a lot of detail about the family, which I didn't know about! It also may explain why it doesn't mention her husband John, as I think he may have left her, and that's why I can't find him anywhere!!!!I know he was alive when she died in 1910, but can't find his death at all.

Another mystery to ponder ?

Thanks again.

Regards,

Daryl

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:02 pm

darylrodger wrote:Hi Annette,

Thanks for posting the transcript of the Asylum application for poor Jessie.
It certainly shows a lot of detail about the family, which I didn't know about! It also may explain why it doesn't mention her husband John, as I think he may have left her, and that's why I can't find him anywhere!!!!I know he was alive when she died in 1910, but can't find his death at all.

Another mystery to ponder ?

Thanks again.

Regards,

Daryl

Hello Daryl,

Husband - John Sime, Timekeeper with Anchor Line age 63 years b 5/5/42 at Urquhart, Moray. Prot. Son of James Sime, blacksmith and Isabella Sime b/d

Other applications I've looked at usually describes the female as deserted if the husband has left her.
The fact that she was described as married along with the above info suggests that he was as sea.

Perhaps he died abroad.

I take it you have viewed the death entries of the 3 John S*mes, who are about the right age, on SP.

kind regards,
Annette M

darylrodger · Post by **darylrodger** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:58 pm

Hello Annette,

I've emailed the archives at Glasgow Uni about John Sime, as they hold archives on the Anchor Line Ltd company. Hopefully they might have some personnel records regarding him when he worked for them.

No, I haven't seen the death certs. for the 3 John S*imes that appear on SP. I'll have a look later today.

Regards,

Daryl

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