McDonald/McKenzie

[nelmit]

This Malcolm might be worth investigating.

Piece: SCT1841/107 Place: Urquhart&Glenmoristn-Inverness-shire Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Urquhart&glenmoristn Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 7 Page: 8
Address: East Lewistown

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCDOND Malcolm M 74 Carpenter Inverness-shire
MCDOND Mary F 55 Inverness-shire
KENNEDY John M 14 Inverness-shire
ROSS Alex M 55 Inverness-shire

Regards,
Annette

Could be total coincidence but here is the next household -

Piece: SCT1841/107 Place: Urquhart&Glenmoristn-Inverness-shire Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Urquhart&glenmoristn Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 7 Page: 9
Address: East Lewistown

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
URQUHART John (Capt) M 73 Independant Inverness-shire
URQUHART Isabella F 50 Inverness-shire
URQUHART Cath F 12 Inverness-shire
GRANT Greger M 18 Carpenter Apprentice Inverness-shire
MCDONALD Ann F 40 Female Servnt Inverness-shire
FRASER Isabella F 12 Female Servnt Inverness-shire

I wonder if Ann could be Malcolm's daughter -

ANN MAC DONALD Female

Event(s):
Birth: 18 OCT 1801

Christening: 20 OCT 1801 Urquhart, Inverness, Scotland
Parents:
Father: MALCOLM MAC DONALD Family
Mother: JANNET MAC DONALD


Regards,
Annette

[rsmacleod]

Thanks. Where did you find this entry for Malcolm, Carpenter and Mary - and what is date of entry? Could be right one.Ruth

[nelmit]

Thanks. Where did you find this entry for Malcolm, Carpenter and Mary - and what is date of entry? Could be right one.Ruth

I found it at FREECEN but the original can be viewed at Scotlands People.
I can't believe he's anything but Murdo's father as he's a carpenter living at Lewistown as described on Murdo's birth entry. The only thing that made me wonder is that you've given Malcolm's bith c1795. How did you find that?

As in the header the census entry is from 1841.

Regards,
Annette

[rsmacleod]

Great. The birth date was only found on Fam. Search IGI which of course is not always accurate.
I'll have to get some more S/P. credits and then have a look. Only thing - that would make his birthdate 1767, which may be a bit early as William was born 1821.
This is great - so much interest and I have only just joined!! This is the main brick wall, - I have been researching my husband's tree and am nearly finished.

[rsmacleod]

Probably get a rush of answers tomorrow from Stephen McDonald (my husband's second cousin, once removed) but as he is in Toronto, Canada, he is probably soundly tucked up in bed at the moment - they are about 15 hours behind Australia. Ruth

[nelmit]

Great. The birth date was only found on Fam. Search IGI which of course is not always accurate.
I'll have to get some more S/P. credits and then have a look. Only thing - that would make his birthdate 1767, which may be a bit early as William was born 1821.

I wouldn't worry too much about his age after all he was a widower when he married Mary McKenzie. My paternal grandfather was 64 when my dad was born.

This is great - so much interest and I have only just joined!! This is the main brick wall, - I have been researching my husband's tree and am nearly finished.

I don't think you're ever finished in this game!

Regards,
Annette

[bigmac1x]

"Ferrintosh was in a detached part of Nairnshire within Urquhart & Logie Wester parish. The rest of the parish was within Ross & Cromarty. The Act tidied up a lot of detached pieces of counties and parishes, as well as parishes which straddled county boundaries.
All the best,
AndrewP"
Wow, this is really strange. Ferrintosh is on the Black Isle (North side) but was part of Nairn (which is on the other side of the Firth, south of the Black Isle)? Not sure how it could have straddled county boundaries in this case. Is this right?

In all searches I've done I always check both Inversness-shire and R&C (since Malcolm and Mary married in the first and their Son, Murdo moved to R&C - near where Mary came from).

Can't find the Mary and Brother 1871 census sheet referred to earlier. Can someone send it directly to me please?

Malcom b.1795 and Mary b.1799 I believe did come from IGI as Ruth mentioned but seems to me I saw it on other documents as well. Will have to pull out the HUGE McDonald paper file and have a peek there.

Thanks so much to everyone for all their suggestions in this frustrating quest for knowledge.

Stephen

[LesleyB]

Hi Stephen

Can't find the Mary and Brother 1871 census sheet referred to earlier. Can someone send it directly to me please?

You should be able to find it on Scotlands People where you can download copies of the original pages - link at top of page.

Best wishes
Lesley

[nelmit]

Can't find the Mary and Brother 1871 census sheet referred to earlier. Can someone send it directly to me please?

Stephen

Hello Stephen,

I think Wonka2 meant - have you found parents who match both Mary McKenzie c1799 (wife of Malcom) and Murdo McKenzie c1793 (the uncle who was living with Murdo McDonald in 1871).

Hope this makes sense.

regards,
Annette

[AndrewP]

"Ferrintosh was in a detached part of Nairnshire within Urquhart & Logie Wester parish. The rest of the parish was within Ross & Cromarty. The Act tidied up a lot of detached pieces of counties and parishes, as well as parishes which straddled county boundaries.
All the best,
AndrewP"
Wow, this is really strange. Ferrintosh is on the Black Isle (North side) but was part of Nairn (which is on the other side of the Firth, south of the Black Isle)? Not sure how it could have straddled county boundaries in this case. Is this right?

Yes, this is right. See the following map.

http://www.nls.uk/maps/os/oneinch_1st_list.html
Select sheet 83 - Inverness

In the top-right quarter of that map, you will find Urquhart & Logie Wester parish, and part of that labelled as Nairnshire (Detached No.5). The other four detached parts are nearer to the main body of the county - within Inverness-shire and Moray (Elginshire).

These detached parts of counties or parishes were usually a legacy of land ownership, where the landowner had his scattered lands defined as being in his home county. The most prolific example of this was Cromartyshire, which was made up of more than 20 pieces, mostly in the county that became known as Ross & Cromarty. There is a theory that Caroline Park, now within Edinburgh could have been declared as part of Cromartyshire, although it is most of 200 miles from Cromarty. It was at that time owned by Viscount Tarbat, Earl of Cromarty.

Ferrintosh was the property of Forbes of Cullodden, and was declared ad pertaining to Nairnshire. See the following webpage.

Google Books extract from Parliamentary papers

All the best,

AndrewP