Huntly Gardens Cathcart

Falkyrn · Post by **Falkyrn** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:02 pm

This would refer to the second rail line built through cathcart by the Lanarkshire & Ayrshire Rail company (this is the line that now terminates at Neilston) to take coal through to Ardrossan.
a map shows the line running just north of Menock Road and Manse Braeand travelling parallel to Delvin Road and Monreith Road east before turning southwest towards merrylee road.

Post by **AndrewP** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:01 pm

WilmaM wrote:Maybe AndrewP knows of another source of maps for that area? I know Alan Godfrey were doing more, but my collection stops at BattleField.

Only if there's anything on www.old-maps.co.uk but I've not looked yet.

All the best,

AndrewP

PaulB28 · Post by **PaulB28** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:01 pm

Hi all

Thanks for all the info.

I checked to see if any of other addresses name in Alan's post still exist. There is not a Castle Gardens but there is a an Old Castle Gardens which is just beside the railway just off Old Castle Road.

Regards

Paul

Falkyrn · Post by **Falkyrn** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:12 pm

Unfortunately the maps on Old map .co. uk don't give enough detail of the area to name the streets but Alan Godfrey do have a 1910 ordnance survey map of cathcart for sale
http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/

Post by **AndrewP** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:39 pm

Hi All,

The only Huntly Gardens that I can find on a map is the one mentioned above in Hillhead.

http://www.theglasgowstory.co.uk/valmapview.php?id=24

The equivalent map of the Cathcart Station area is:

http://www.theglasgowstory.co.uk/valmapview.php?id=36

Or on a modern map:

click here for current map showing Old Castle Gardens and Holmhead Road

All the best,

AndrewP

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:17 pm

Here are a few more Glasgow Herald items regarding places in the neighbourhood. It’ll give a bit of an idea of the set-up that existed. Probably all swallowed up by the large area devoted to the Railway Junctions. The 1901 Census Enumeration District Description, if any, may be useful (see Walter Pottier 1899 if necessary).

There are quite reasonable images of the area on Google Earth with clearer street name detail than the modern street map, tick the Roads box.

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, November 9, 1888
CATHCART. – Nos. 9-16 OSBORNE VILLAS, FOR SALE, by Public Roup ……….
Those 8 New and Substantial LODGINGS, Nos. 9-16 OSBORNE VILLAS, each containing 6 Rooms and Kitchen, with all Modern Conveniences. The Houses are convenient to the Railway Station and all Let. Feu-duty, £6 each house. Total present rental £265. The Houses will be Exposed in One Lot at the Upset Price of £3700. …………

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, January 10, 1896
CATHCART. – For Sale, by Public Roup ……………….
That SEMI-DETACHED VILLA, No. 2 BALMORAL VILLAS, CATHCART, containing 6 Rooms and Kitchen. Extent of Ground, 342 Square Yards …………………..

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, April 10, 1896
FOR SALE, within the Faculty Hall, Glasgow …………………………..
1. FOUR FEU-DUTIES of £6 each, with Duplication every 19th year, payable from Self-Contained Houses forming Nos. 9, 10, 11, and 12 Balmoral Villas, Cathcart. Rental of each house, £35. …………………………..

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Wednesday, February 17, 1897
FOR SALE PRIVATELY
NO. 1 BALMORAL VILLAS, CATHCART, containing 6 rooms, with Servant’s-Room, Kitchen, Bath-Room and 2 W.C.’s. Extent of Ground 816 Square Yards. ………………

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Wednesday, September 13, 1899
VALUATION APPEAL COURTS – RENFREWSHIRE
Walter Pottier asked that the return on the house occupied by him at 6 Castle Gardens, Cathcart, should be reduced from £40 to £30. The valuation was sustained.

Hope that’s useful,
Alan

PaulB28 · Post by **PaulB28** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:53 pm

Thats great Alan

Thanks for your help.

Regards

Paul

David Lang · Post by **David Lang** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:49 pm

It will not be old castle gardens as these are a new development aboyt 5 years ago.

Probably were an older set of buildings that were demolished when the railway was built/expanded

Lorna Allison · Post by **Lorna Allison** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:40 pm

Hello Paul

Just taken a look at Alan's post re the "Letter to the ED" regarding proposednew railway line at Cathcart.

Looks certain to me that "Huntly Gardens" would be a terrace of villas making up part of a road in Cathcart, same with the "Castle Gardens". You can still see the names of some of these terraces in faint gold lettering on the end-of-terrace house wall in Glasgow - I am thinking particularly of Dumbarton Road (Scotstoun end), but I know that there used to be similar terraces in the vicinity of Cathcart Road and suspect that it was usual practice in late 1800s and early 1900s.

I don't suppose these individual terraces would be shown on maps, just the main name of the road.

Regards

Lorna

PaulB28 · Post by **PaulB28** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:44 pm

Hi Lorna,

Sorry for taking so long to come back to you.

I think your right that there is good chance that Huntly Gardens is part of another Road in Cathcart.

I think I'm now almost certain it must been closed to the Railway.

Thanks for everyones help.

Regards

Paul