World War One - Scottish Roll of Honour

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Cramond Brig
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Post by Cramond Brig » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:48 pm

LesleyB wrote:The "In from the Cold" project can be found here:
http://www.infromthecold.org/
Lesley

Thank you.

Just had a quick look and there are 2 Argylls. Had one but not the other so have added one. A useful double check.

Alistair
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LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:33 pm

Alistair
- I take it you are also aware that there is much in the way of WW1 soldiers records, images of the originals, on Ancestry? ( www.ancestry.co.uk )
This may give you some detail on individual soldiers (Officers are not incl. in the Service Records which tend to give the most detail - there is no online source for those at present):
e.g.
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 (up to letter N so far, but some later letters are there due to misfiling of the orignals)
This database contains the surviving service records of non-commissioned officers and other ranks who served in WWI and did not re-enlist in the Army prior to World War II. With the latest release, this database now contains records for surnames beginning A-N. The type of information contained in these records includes: name of solider, age, birthplace, occupation, marital status, and regiment number.
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
This database contains service records of non-commissioned officers and other ranks who were discharged from the Army and claimed disability pensions for service in WWI. These were also men who did not re-enlist in the Army prior to World War II. The type of information contained in these records includes: name of solider, age, birthplace, occupation, marital status, and regiment number.
( They are not actually pension records apparently see "There are no separate pension records and the collection in WO364 (described above) are not pension records: they have been described as such, misleadingly, by Ancestry." at http://www.1914-1918.net/grandad/records.htm Chris Bakers very useful & helpful site)

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

You can of course take out a subscription to Ancestry, but as your local library most likely offers free access to Ancestry, that would be the most sensible way to go I reckon!

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by Cramond Brig » Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:42 pm

Lesley

Thanks again.

I am aware that there is much in the way of WW1 soldiers records, images of the originals, on Ancestry. It is useful for filling in gaps on CWGC. Officers are a problem in terms of place of birth. British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards are sparse in detail, sometimes have a next of kin name and address, but that may not be where the officer was born.

I have accessed Service Records and Pension Records but, as you know, a great deal of damage was done to these by a WW2 bomb.

Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 is OK but hardly ever gives the soldier's age

I have taken out a subscription to Ancestry as the time pressure in this project means I need to get answers as quickly as possible while I'm on the page, as it were. If I have to go back and add or delete it means the following layout has to be altered.

I have had to use Scotland's People when everything else has failed but, as you know, it costs money - and as it is mine I try to avoid that! Today I saw what I felt sure were a father and son Argylls and only getting the son's birth certificate proved that I was correct.

Your time and input is really appreciated. Thank you.

Regards

Alistair
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Re: Private George Sutherland

Post by Adam Brown » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:39 pm

Cramond Brig wrote:Private George Sutherland, Birthplace Wick, Residence British Guiana, Death Date 17 June, 1918, Enlistment Location Aberdeen, Regiment Princess Louise's (Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders) 1/5th Battalion, Service Number S/20755. Son of Mrs M Sutherland, 158 Broomhill Road, Aberdeen
Alistair

From the City of Aberdeen Roll of Honour details here:

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3242

Sutherland George Pte S/20755 5th Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders b Wick 17/05/1878 e British Guiana r Aberdeen Age 39 Killed in Action F & F 17-Jun-18 Son of Margaret (nee Cruickshank) Sutherland, 158 Broomhill Rd; Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour. 2nd son of the Rev George Sutherland, formerly of The Parsonage, Portsoy, Banff. The Roll of Honour: Vol IV Page 203. La Targette British Cemetery, Neuville St Vaast Fr 0268 Plot III Row A Grave 6
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Re: Private George Sutherland

Post by Cramond Brig » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:49 pm

Alistair

From the City of Aberdeen Roll of Honour details here:

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3242

Sutherland George Pte S/20755 5th Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders b Wick 17/05/1878 e British Guiana r Aberdeen Age 39 Killed in Action F & F 17-Jun-18 Son of Margaret (nee Cruickshank) Sutherland, 158 Broomhill Rd; Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour. 2nd son of the Rev George Sutherland, formerly of The Parsonage, Portsoy, Banff. The Roll of Honour: Vol IV Page 203. La Targette British Cemetery, Neuville St Vaast Fr 0268 Plot III Row A Grave 6
Adam

Thanks for that.

Alistair
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