Dawson Gascoigne: Northumberland to Durham to Victoria, Au

[speleobat2]

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Nicholas Jas Renaut
Death Place: Campbellfield, Victoria
Age: 56
Father's name: Nicholas Renaut
Mother's name: Josephine Boland
Registration Year: 1938
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6306


Carol

[SarahND]

Hi Carol,
So... that would be Quintin's half brother? Looks like he was on the way long before Dawson died. This is shaping up to be a good soap opera-- I wonder if we could sell the story to make money to endow a TS scholarship to pay the way for Australian TS members to fly to the Scotland's People Centre in Edinburgh


Sarah

[speleobat2]

Hey that's a thought!

There are records for two more children--Euphemia and William-- and birth for Nicholas Jr but now my internet explorer is acting up so I lost the post that I was trying to send you! I'm finding all of them in the AU indexes on Ancestry AU.

Carol

[SarahND]

Wow, Euphemia was born in 1876 and William in 1877... That's cutting it a bit close. It would be really nice to know when, exactly, Dawson left. But I can't find him on the passenger lists leaving Victoria

Regards,
Sarah

Later: There's also a Mary Euphemia in 1879, so maybe the first little Euphemia didn't live.

[speleobat2]

Makes you even more curious about the divorce records, doesn't it?!

Carol

[speleobat2]

The first Euphemia only lived to be seven months old.

I can't find Dawson's departure from the scene either.

Carol

[speleobat2]

Wonder if this is your Quentin:

Mining Fatality. MELBOURNE, Friday. Barrier Miner (Broken Hill, NSW : 1888-1954) Friday 6 March 1903 Edition: SECOND EDITION p 2 Article... Mining Fatality. MELBOURNE, Friday. At the Clarence United mine, iee, Eaglehawk, yesterday evening, a stone fell, killing instantaneously a miner, Quintant Renaut, aub, Renant, who was 34 years ol age, was married, with two ohildron. ... 35 words

Found it on the trove nla site from Trish's post above.

Carol

[SarahND]

Oh dear, that does sound like him and is the right date. Thanks for that, Carol.

Regards,
Sarah

[trish1]

Hi Sarah

There are a number of Renouf - Nichs (Nicholas presumably) records on the Vic Cds - the Renout could be a transcription error. I will try to find them all & see if it makes any sense. I have also found families (in England rather than Australia) where a surname was changed when an adult child discovered the father was not the father - so to speak. Certainly an interesting family to trace.

Carol - the newspaper site is an absolute gem - sometimes things are reported in a completely different state - I found a death in Queensland (sadly via someone escaping a lunatic asylum) in a newspaper from Adelaide (SA) - there are many many problems with the transcriptions so worth using lots of options to check.

Trish

[trish1]

Probably a different family - so my Renouf is a red herring
Renouf Nichs Jas Thos born parents Jas Ellen Martin Carlton 1900/17462 (just the given names - mimic the 1882 birth)
(parents married 1897)

Births
Renaut Euphemia - Nicholas Josephine Boland Sand 1876/5207 - died 1876/10276
Renant William - Nicholas and Josephine Boland Sandhurst 1877/18313
Renant Mary Euphemia - Nicholas and Josephine Boland Sand 1879/25664
Renaut Nickles James Th - Nickles and Josephine Boland Sand 1882/11853

Deaths
Renaut Nicholas Father Thomas mother Unknown Euphemia 45 1882/3345
Renaut Josine parents unknown age 72 Melb S 1920/11545
These could be interesting death certificates but quite likely that husband Dawson is simply omitted by the informants. I cannot find a marriage for Josephine and Nicholas - the birth certificate of one of their children should give where they were married 7 place of birth for each of them.
This may be the immigration for Nicholas - age looks about right based on age at death.
RENANT NICHOLAS 24 JAN 1861 YORKSHIRE B 186 005

Marriages
Renant Mary Euphemai born Bgo married Jno Jas Montgomery 1899/3788
Renant Wm born Bgo married Gerte Julia Painter 1901/2278
Renaut Nicholas Jas MARTIN Ellen Ctina Carnduff 1914/478

Lots of children born to William and Gerte - recorded under Renant and Renaut - do you need the names?
Death Renaut Wm - Renaut Nicholas and Josine Boland 42 Bendigo 1920/8830

Couple of burials from Alan's link
* (1876) RENANT, EUPHEMIA
* (1882) RENANT, NICHOLAS

and some more
* (1981) RENAUT, ALFRED WILLIAM Q
* (1992) RENAUT, BERNICE EILEEN
* (1953) RENAUT, GERTRUDE JULIA
* (1987) RENAUT, IVY PEARL
* (1920) RENAUT, JOSEPHINE
* (2002) RENAUT, QUINTON AXEL
* (1903) RENAUT, QUINTON JOHN B
* (2005) RENAUT, SYDNEY PERCIVAL
* (2004) RENAUT, SYDNEY PERCIVAL
* (1984) RENAUT, SYLVIA MAY
* (1920) RENAUT, WILLIAM

Some of the above are probably children/dau inlaws of William

Trish