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Chek??

Post by Jean Jeanie » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:20 pm

Hi

I need help again with transcribing a early nineteenth century document.

The word looks like "chek"

The sentence reads " It was dark when she was attacked and Smith did not carry any chek, at least she did not observe him have any"

The only thing that comes to mind is a lantern of some sorts.

Any ideas?

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Jean

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Post by Russell » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:11 pm

Hi Jean

I have searched through various sources including a dialect dictionary with no success. I even trwaled through the 'cle...' terms in case it was a poorly formed 'l' but no joy there either.
Which part of the country does this relate to ?
Any chance of scanning in that portion of the text ?

The word doesn't feel right somehow :?

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:49 pm

Hi Russell

I scanned in the page and it is unreadable :cry:

It is a legal document so I think it is written on blue paper.

The trial took place in Aberdeen and the incident took place in Tarland, Aberdeenshire, if this is of any help at all :(

Best wishes
Jean

PS. If anyone has any tips about scanning this in I would appreciate it

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Post by Currie » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:53 am

Hello Jean,

I take it that the paper document you have is greyscale (no colour) and the background is dark and there isn’t much contrast between the writing and the paper.

Check that your Scanner software is set to Photo (either Greyscale or Colour) and not to Black and White, Document or Text enhanced or whatever. If you scan it the same way you would scan a photograph the result should be the same as the document. If the resultant file size is a problem then just scan the general area of the particular word leaving enough so as context etc is not compromised. The result can be enhanced at this end if necessary.

The word “chek” crops up in Google Books, also used poetically. What time period are we looking at, it sounds ancient. Unless it’s just a variety of “check”.

1795 Dictionary. (Also see Check on previous page)

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=v-Q ... =&as_brr=1

Alan

Answer: It's an early nineteenth century document Alan.

Alan

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:12 pm

Hi Alan

Firstly I'm not too hot at adjusting, cropping etc etc etc. The scanner is normally only used for scanning in photos and saving them the size they are. I haven't experimented with it in any way.

Well I set the scanner to greyscale and scanned the doc in. No matter how much I reduce it, the file is still too big to upload. (megabytes)

I copied and pasted it into a word doc and it looks good, but is still too big(2359KB) :(

I then managed to save it as a Microsoft Office Doc Imaging file which is 796KB but it will still not upload to the gallery. Maybe the gallery doesn't like this format...........I don't even know how I managed to do this :oops:

HELP :oops: :oops: :oops:

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by DavidMK » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:19 pm

Could it be a cleek? "a hook or a device shaped like a hook"

As kids we played with a gird and cleek. Does this admission give away my age?

David

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Post by SarahND » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:31 pm

Aaaack, Jean,
Was she attacked with a hook? :shock: Poor woman...
Regards,
Sarah

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Post by Rach » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:01 pm

Hi Jean,
I found a website earlier today which had 'chek' rein - to keep the horse's head in position. Unfortunately I then lost 'talkingscot' and couldn't get it back up. Now I can't find the website for the explanation! As you were looking at sheltie's I wondered if this could have any bearing!
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Post by Jean Jeanie » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:41 pm

Andrew has lightened and trimmed the image for me, so we should see it here soon.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1495

I look forward to your observations.

Best wishes
Jean

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

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Post by Falkyrn » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:51 pm

The DSL gives a number of uses of the word Chek .....

but one of the definitions refers to an instrument used as a stop and gives examples of a door stop or door post and a later entry refers to chek in conjunction with a horse as in check rein which is defined as
"a rein usually running from the bit to the saddle, used to keep a horse from lowering its head"
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