another Hugh Glacken

hg · Post by hg » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:46 pm

Hugh Glacken born 1832 in Lanarkshire is the brother of my ggrandfather Peter.

I have Hugh in the 1841 census then......... nothing.

Another one abducted by aliens!!!!!

all the best

Helen

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:50 am

Hi Helen,
He does seem to have disappeared off the face of the earth. It is possible that he died between 1841 and 1855-- or that he went back to Ireland to stay with family there.

I note that his father ends up in the poorhouse, although the mother does not. Have you seen his poorhouse application to see if his eldest son is mentioned? Edit later: I see I already suggested this in another post -- do tend to repeat myself, don't I?

Have you been able to get a look at the application since?

The only other thought I have is to look through the microfilms of burials at the Mitchell... I found an ancestor who died in 1840 that way.

All the best,
Sarah

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:26 am

Hi again,
Another thought: Since Hugh is so much older than his siblings, could he have actually been born in Ireland? There is a Hugh Glackin who arrives in New York from Liverpool on the ship Rappahannock on 4 Nov 1851, age 17. In another database there is a Hugh 20, arriving 17 Jun 1851 on the Independence from Liverpool to New York. Either the same as one of these or another shows up in the 1860 census in Hazel Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, age 30. All are born in Ireland. This Hugh, always continuing to say he was born in 1830 in Ireland (but it is so much easier to give a round number to the census enumerator!) is a labourer here and there, mostly in Pennsylvania in the mining communities. In 1880 (last sighting) he is in West Mahanoy, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania, is still single, a labourer, unemployed for 2 months of the census year, cannot read or write.

What do you think?

Sarah

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:56 am

Yet another Hugh Glackin, labourer, died aged 25 in 1860 in Montreal, Quebec. He was a Catholic. He shows up in the Montreal Directory as a "boatman" in 1857, or so says the Ancestry index. I can't find that record, however, at this site:

http://bibnum2.bnquebec.ca/bna/lovell/index.html

But, starting the year of Hugh's death, there are a James Glacken and a Mary Glacken in Montreal. You can follow their fortunes on the site above, year by year.

James Glacken, laborer, 40 Chaboillez (Montreal 1860-61)
James Glacken, laborer, 50 Chaboillez (Montreal 1861-2)
Mary Glacken, washerwoman, rear off 25 Geneviève (Montreal 1861-2)

Just in case he turns out to be relevant, the above James was married in Montreal in 1856, although he doesn't show up in the directory until 1860. In the marriage record it says he is the son of James Glacken and Else McAber of County Tyrone, Ireland. His bride is Mary Degan, daughter of Denis Degan and Mary Dempsey(?) of County Wicklow, Ireland.

Their son James was born in 1858, a daughter Mary Jane in 1860. All of the above BMD's (including Hugh's death in 1860) are from the Drouin Collection of Quebec Vital and Church Records.

Regards,
Sarah

hg · Post by hg » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:33 am

Hi Sarah,

Thank you very much for your reply.

I went to the Mitchell Library last April. At the time I was concentrating on Hugh's father Hugh and his mother Catherine, so it did not enter my head to look for a death for this Hugh. I was a bit disappointed as I didn't discover any more information regarding Hugh (father) . I was hoping to get at least parents names or a confirmed place of birth. I did get confirmation that the family were Roman Catholic.

The earliest application for poor releif I could find was 1857 and Hugh (son) was not there.

This family seemed to have a very difficult time as I am sure many of the time also had. They made several poor releif applications and one of the children Christopher was always ill, he eventally died in the poorhouse in 1884 so it would not surprise me if Hugh also died young.

I wont be able to get to the Mitchell in the near future, I live in Britol and my family live in Edinburgh so it would mean another special visit to Glasgow, unless some kind person out there is able to look for a death for Hugh for me!

I am not sure if he was born in Ireland or not. The 1841 census states Lanark and his parents were married in Lanark. It also says his mother Catherine was born in Lanark but I have never been able to find her birth records.

He may have emigrated I guess but, I would like to elimanate his early death before I go down that route.

Many thanks again for your assistance.

all the best

Helen

nb I just tried to find a birth fo son Hugh - no success.