re GreatGrand Mother for Annette

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Fri May 01, 2009 5:03 pm

hi Annette
the Fanny Cameron one tells a few interesting things , sadly nothing has been found on Charles and not sure if i should leave it , or try do it sometime this year , lol
anyway
Fanny lived at looks like 78 Back Wynd ? her country of birth is down as 116 Green Street Backland ?
she spplied for poor relief on oct 1862 , due to an injury from a fall ,
her Husband Robert had been dead 10 years , he was born Balfron
Elizabeth 25 , born in Sivergrove , her Brother David the same and Brother James Bridge gate bother Brother were in America in 1862 ,
nothing exciting really , although we know there is others to look for ,-at some stage ,

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:25 pm

Hi Jan,

Glad to hear you're making progress. The poorhouse applications can be really informative sometimes.

This looks like the family in 1841 from FREECEN -

Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 17
Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Marys or Tron
Folio: 221 Page: 29
Address: 70 Bridgegate

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CONNELLY Nancy F 80 Hawker Ireland
CONNELLY Margaret F 25 Hawker Ireland
BOWMAN Margaret F 45 Hawker Lanarkshire
BOWMAN Bell F 15 Power Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
Page: 221/30 BOWMAN Elizabeth F 10 Lanarkshire
CAMERON Robert M 25 Cotton Spinner Lanarkshire
CAMERON Francis M 25 Lanarkshire
CAMERON Elizabeth F 10 Lanarkshire
CAMERON David M 8 Lanarkshire
CAMERON Donald M 3 Lanarkshire

Regards,
Annette

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:32 pm

And 1851 -

Name: Robert Cameron
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Balfron, Stirling
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Mary
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 109
Occupation: Harbour Lab
ED: 12
Page: 8 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_156
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cameron 41
Cameron 39
Elizabeth Cameron 20
Daniel Cameron 13
James Cameron 9

Regards,
Annette

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:46 pm

thanks for these Annette ,
not sure where to go from here with this , and a pity nothing can be found on Charles Stewart ,
looking at the births of the children , there is a big gap between Janet and Grace , so think there might be a few missing from there , or maybe before Janet ,
i know twins were born and didnt live long , and from the stories we were told i think these must have been after 1905 ,way my Mum was talking ,
she did say there was a few babies that were born dead , and some didnt live long ,
would these Babies been reg way back then ?

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:02 pm

Justjan wrote:thanks for these Annette ,
not sure where to go from here with this , and a pity nothing can be found on Charles Stewart ,
looking at the births of the children , there is a big gap between Janet and Grace , so think there might be a few missing from there , or maybe before Janet ,
i know twins were born and didnt live long , and from the stories we were told i think these must have been after 1905 ,way my Mum was talking ,
she did say there was a few babies that were born dead , and some didnt live long ,
would these Babies been reg way back then ?

If the children were stillborn it wouldn't have been registered but those who lived, even for a short while, would.

To look for all of James's children after 1901 on SP would be a nightmare unless they were mentioned in his poorhouse application - then you should have their dates of birth.

1911 isn't too far away!!

Regards,
Annette

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:34 pm

think the twins lived , as i remember my Mother talking about them being small and how they were kept warm due to their size ,so she has had some memory of that , dont know where the little still born ones came in the ages or years , just know there was some , it is a nightmare in SP i have tired , cant even get Janets death as yet , just the ones i mentioned are on the application , and thats before my Mums birth ,
wonder if they ever tried again for poor relief , as my Mum was in some hospital for a long time with ? forgotten what , but know it was something like months and it was Glasgow ,my Brother would know the hospital but hes off on holidays now , just wondered how they could keep sp many children and pay for one in Hospital and the deaths of 2 little girls without help ,
but my brain is ticking over - just not getting far lol