can any help , really stuck

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:14 pm

hi
can anyone help , i am so stuck on this ,
i have a Family 1841 census
Neilson Stewart
back house
Paisley Middle , born in Ireland around 1823 ,
parents a Charles and Sarah Stewart , born Ireland 1774 & 1775

they young couple have 3 children ,but also a Nephew age 13 Charles Stewart ,he was Born Renfrewshire Scotland ,
so we can assume Charles and Sarah have to have had another Son at least , but i cant find them in LDS ,
i just dont know how to look for a couple having Children without having the names ,
if i am right this Neilson goes on to have more children and has moved to Bridgton Glasgow ,
not sure if its a step to side or back ,

morgano · Post by **morgano** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:13 am

I'm puzzled, because I see no nephew in the 1841 census. We have Charles Stewart (aged 60), agricultural labourer, originally from Ireland. Then we have Sarah Stewart, also Irish, aged 55. There are two younger people with them: "Nilson", aged 20, and Sarah, aged 15, both born in Ireland, too. There is nobody else in the household. Most of the ages in 1841 are rounded one way, or the other, so are not reliable. Also, the 1841 census does not state the relationship between members of households.

I definitely agree that this "Nilson" is the Neilson Stewart who turns up later in Bridgeton. At some point, the family has been in England, where the first two children, helpfully named Charles and Sarah, have been born in 1845/6 and 1847/8, respectively.

There is a Charles Douglass Stewart born in Renfrewshire, 20/9/1829, to Charles Douglass Stewart (a weaver) and Elizabeth King, but there is nothing to indicate that the father was a native of Ireland.

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Sat May 16, 2009 1:01 pm

charles douglas stewart has a son the same name , who married in Perth
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sorry its been 1851 , its the 13 year old one i am looking for ,
thanks
1851 Scotland Census
about Charles Stewart
Name: Charles Stewart
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire
Parish Number: 573
Civil Parish: Paisley Middle Church
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 69 Back House
Occupation: At School
ED: 8B
Page: 20 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 79
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_124
Household Members: Name Age
Neilson Stewart 28
Ann Stewart 28
Charlies Stewart 5
Sarah Stewart 3
John Stewart 1
Charles Stewart 77
Sarah Stewart 66
Charles Stewart 13

Post by **HeatherH** » Mon May 18, 2009 1:46 am

The instructions for the 1841 census were to "Round Down" to the nearest "5" for anyone over 15. So if you were 64 they rounded down to 60. If you were 19 down to 15 and so on. Ages were not to be rounded up.
Happy Hunting,
Heather

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Mon May 18, 2009 4:13 am

thanks isnt that confusing lol

morgano · Post by **morgano** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:31 am

And the 1841 census was no more helpful in identifying somebody's place of birth than it was in establishing his or her age.

There is a 3-year-old Charles Stewart in the 1841 census in Renfrewshire: mother Ann, father William, both parents born in Ireland.

Justjan · Post by **Justjan** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:49 am

gees not sure where my last post went , i seen this Ann and William ,
cant prove its the same Charles or not ,
or if his Parents are Charles and Sarah , nor can i get a Irish Charles and Elizabeth m/s Renfrew ,
lifes not easy is it lol