Kinning Park question

[speleobat2]

Hi all,

This will tell you how much I know about Glasgow--not much!

On going through my notes, I found that two of my great grandmother Cadenhead's siblings lived in Kinning Park--one at 109 Paisley Rd. and one at 258 Paisley Rd.

Both addresses were in the Kinning Park reg. district in 1891, but 109 Paisley Rd. was in the Kinning Park Landward reg. district, Kinning Park town by 1901. I thought Wikepedia said that this was one of the smallest registration districts in Scotland? Or did they just change the names and not the boundaries?

Just curious. Both families moved to Eaglesham some time after the 1901 census.

Carol

[WilmaM]

Kinning Park is an odd one as it's right at the very eastern edge of Govan, which wasn't part of Glasgow until about 1912.

The 2 addresses would be on opposite sides of the road, so one side was probably in Glasgow and the other side not!

I can't remember off hand where each of those numbers would have been, but I don't think they are there any more.

[AndrewP]

Hi Carol,

From 1875 to 1906 the registration districts of Glasgow (644 prefix) were unchanged in name. There may have been some minor boundary adjustments, but certainly nothing major. As Kinning Park was one registration district, not officially divided into separate registration districts of town and landward, the interpretation of these terms would more likely have been at least partly down to opinion as to what was considered as part of the ever-expanding urban area or rural within the district. I wouldn't read too much into town or landward in what was considered as part of the city. I doubt very much you would ever find it as a boundary line on a map.

All the best,

AndrewP

Later edit
After reading Wilma's answer above, I hadn't considered that although Kinning Park was designated as a Glasgow registration district, it may well be that not all of the RD was within the Glasgow City boundary. It may be that the city boundary moved within these years, but the RD remained unchanged.

[speleobat2]

Thanks Wilma and Andrew!

With all the rest of my family in Aberdeenshire and there abouts, I just have spent much time on Glasgow so this is all new. I was guessing that if Paisley Road was a toll road, it had probably been expanded since my relatives lived there so I didn't expect to see their houses! I'm striking out in Eaglesham tonight too. George Cadenhead's widow and daughters moved to 14 Polnoon street some time after 1891. I got my hopes up because the historical commission has written up Polnoon Street for it's architechtural elements, but no picture of # 14. Even the real estate ad that mentions #14 has "no image"! It's just a few doors up from The White Swan Inn which is #23. Eaglesham looks lovely anyway!

Carol

[WilmaM]

Carol, have a look at the Virtual Mitchell : http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/
There's a picture of 111 Paisley road [a shop] and the close entrance next to it would be 109.

The road itself hasn't changed much in the last 150 years - when part of it was widened, they just took away the gardens of some of the houses. Although at the eastern end [Plantation, Kinning Park] the majority of the tenements are now replaced by modern tenements [or flats as they are called now!] the next section numbers 300+ are all still there and the shops at street level too.

In fact judging by other street numbers [the Grapes Pub at 218 and the dentist at 286] the 258 one is very probably the 'posh' ones with basement flats and will still be there between Clutha Street and Harvie Street.

Oh dear you've made me want to go 'home' - this time armed with my camera!

[speleobat2]

Thanks Wilma! I couldn't get your link to work, but got to the virtual library by googling anyway. Just spent half and hour looking at pictures! I have to be out of the house this morning, but I'll have another look around later.

Carol

[WilmaM]

I've got it to work now:
http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/

The last / was missing

[joette]

Where I grew up- Dumbarton Road stretched from Dalmuir to Glasgow passing through Clydebank,Yoker & Partick.
Several Registration Districts there.There are many boundaries where one side of the street is one Burgh & the other side another.
As a young woman coming home from a night out I was always tickked off at having to pay extra for a boundary charge once the taxi hit Yoker.Shanks pony from there became a regular feature of our activities.We would oft pool our spare cash & get acab to take us as far as our cash would last.If we forgot the boundary cost(1/3 on the meter) then no lunches or tights that week! Which is where we had usually been.

[Wee Ann]

I lived for several of my 'growing up' years in Plantation Street, and I am pretty sure that it ran from Govan Road to Paisley Road West.
I always understood that Paisley Road was before 'The Toll' when coming from the city and Paisley Road West was after it.

I Could be wrong of course!
Ann

[Falkyrn]

During the time period in question Kinning Park was NOT part of Glasgow but was an independant burgh in its own right. Usually when a reference is made to an area being "landward" it generally refers to an area which is part of a parish but outwith the actual parish area.

Kinning Park's ambitious attempts to remain independant came to naught when Glasgow annexed the area around 1905.