Heasty/Hastie

[sandysbairn]

Hello all,

I had hit a brick wall trying to locate my husband's 3xgrt grandfather as this relative was born in Ireland, but I don't know which County, and you know what happened to some of their records. I Googled his name as a long shot, and a page of the TalkingScot discussion group came up. So, after joining, I am writing to enquire if "Kath" is still active in this forum and if she had any luck with William Heasty, born in Ireland, but lived in Muthill, Perth in the 1850's.
Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
sandysbairn

[AndrewP]

Hi sandysbairn.

Welcome to TalkingScot.

According to the forum statistics, "Kath" was last active on TalkingScot about 6 weeks back, so hopefully she will find your message soon.

All the best,

AndrewP

[SarahND]

Hi sandysbairn and welcome,

If you don't hear from Kath in a few days, you could try sending her a pm. The forum software will normally send her an email alert of the message so she will know to check back.

Hope you get your Heastys sorted out!
Sarah

[Elwyn 1]

I had a look at the 1901 census for Ireland. There were only 40 Heasty entries, nearly all of them in Co Monaghan, with 3 in Co Antrim and 3 in Co Armagh. So at that time the name was specific to Ulster and to Co Monaghan in particular.

[Currie]

Here's the earlier Hastie post
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12784&hilit=heasty

According to The Dundee Courier & Argus and Northern Warder, Tuesday, June 08, 1880, a labourer from Muthill named H. Hastie, got into trouble for destroying a gamekeepers letter-box. Probably Hugh.

Alan

[sandysbairn]

Hello all,

Many thanks for your welcome and response! I'm still fairly new at this, and so it is exciting to hear from others who have the same interest. I had a good chuckle, Currie, when I read your post, and then teased my husband about his vandal-ous relatives! How on earth do you have access to something like that?

Elwyn 1, thank you for looking at the census. I was told that chances are, that Hasties would be from Ulster, but with no proof, I couldn't go further. I am looking for birth records for William Heasty/Hastie and his wife Mary Meloy and on a census form they declare to be Irish but there's no County named. When Irish people emigrated to Scotland, what would have been the port of entry? And I wonder why they would have left Ireland?

Regards,
sandysbairn

[Russell]

Hi sandysbairn

You didn't give a date for your ggg's arrival in Scotland but don't build up hopes of finding any passenger lists from Ireland. Back in the early 1800's Ireland was part of Britain and it was common for someone seeking work to hop on the next ferry over and take their chances in England or Scotland. Travel to Scotland for some Irish workers was an annual event to work on the harvest. The major migration was during the 1840's when the potato blight affected both Irish and the Hebrides and many were forced off the land to seek the slightly better conditions in Scotland. there were migrations all through the period of time when weaving moved from a home industry to an industrial base. Many skilled Irish weavers competed for work with the local (Scottish) weavers but lost out because they did not have the capital to set up a weaving shop of their own. Many were forced to take less skilled jobs.
Ferries ran from northern ports in Ireland to places like Ardrossan, Ayr, Stranraer and from Dublin etc the shortest crossing was to Liverpool area hence the peculiar sense of humour which Liverpool and the West of Scotland share. The accent in both areas also shows strong Irish influences.

Hope that this clarifies the social history bit.

Russell

[sandysbairn]

Russell, thanks so much for the information. And William is listed on the census as a labourer, makes sense now.William Heasty/Hastie was born around 1831 (+/-), married Mary Meloy, also Irish, in 1856 at St. John the Baptist, Perth, and died in 1885 in the Parish of Muthill, Perth. I don't know when he moved to Scotland. His parents were William Hastie and Mary Dimond (?), but I don't have his date or place of birth. So that's what I'm after at this time. It sounds like "Kath" had gotten as far as I have, so that's why I'd like to contact her. And now that I have figured out what a PM is, perhaps I'll try that!!

How's the snow in your area?

Regards,
sandysbairn

[nelmit]

Don't know if you've seen this or not but this looks like William's mum and maybe brother at Muthill in 1851 -

Mary Demond born Ireland
Hugh Hastie 17 born Ireland, Stone Ware Merchant

This is very frustrating as It looks like William and Mary married at Crieff in 1855 but didn't register it. This entry would have shown where he was born if it had been.

WILLIAM HASTIE

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY MCLOY Family
Marriage:
23 DEC 1855 Crieff, Perth, Scotland

Regards,
Annette

PS The snow has melted and now we need ice skates to negotiate the pavements.

[AndrewP]

Hi sandysbairn,

This looks like the marriage in Perth at the start of 1856. Sadly that means that the wealth of extra info that is on an 1855 certificate is not there.

1856 HEASTY WILLIAM MELOY MARY PERTH BURGH /PERTH 387/01 0007

It may be that there was no Roman Catholic church in Muthil or Crieff at that time.

All the best,

AndrewP