Oh, those transcriptions...

[speleobat2]

I was looking over my Longmore relatives and decided to recheck Adam C (Chalmers) Longmore, b. 1807 Rathven, Banffshire. These are the Ancestry transcriptions for his occupations:

1851 Census Cliex Clerk In The Depart of Remen Amned Of The Burt of Exchegnes Scotland

1861 Census Chief Clerk Lunine Lemembransin

1871 Census Sale Aching Ind Trens Trand & Chighart In Lockegrave East Lehros

I don't remember ever figuring these out and I can't buy any more SP credits until Wednesday so if anyone would like to make a few guesses, please feel free!

Carol

[carlineric]

Hi Carol

The FreeCEN trancription for 1851 is "Chiefclerkinthedepartmentof". Initially I thought the second last word was Exchange but It could be Exchequer as the title could be Chief Clerk in the Department of Remembracer of(in?) the Court of the Exchequer Scotland (they now deal with treasure trove, intestate estates, etc.) which also looks like his title in 1861. There is an (Exch) after his name in the 1851 Directory. The 1875/76 Directory shows Adam Longmore junior as an Extra Clerk in the Exchequer. In the 1881/82 Directory he is an Engrossing Clerk in the Sasine office.

Eric

[nelmit]

No matter how many times Alan posts details I can never remember who can access Gale 19th century newspapers online.

Adam Longmore gets a number of mentions relating to the Exchequer. I'm sure they refer to different generations of the name as the first report is in 1803 where (I think it must be) this Adam is a junior clerk of the exchequer.

1841 St Cuthbert's -
Adam Longmore 60 Ind
Ann Longmore 55
John Alexander Longmore 27
Euphemia Barry 50
Jessie Meikle 20

Then this one (is this your Adam Carol )? ....................
1841 North Leith -
Adam Longmore 30 Clerk in the Exchonger
Isabella Longmore 20
Margarit Mooney 15
Annie James 20
Helen Mcwilliam 15

Regards,
Annette

[speleobat2]

Eric,

I think you've got the 1851 transcription. It's a title that I've never heard and we wouldn't have over here in the USA.

Annette,

Yes, the North Leith Clerk of the Exchonger is mine! Can't wait to have a look at the 1871 census and see what the Trens Trand & Chighart are!

Thanks to both of you!

Carol

[Montrose Budie]

1871 has him as "Late acting Queen's & Lord Treas^r Remb. & Chief Clerk in Exchequer Scot.: Retired

Compare with Sale Aching Ind Trens Trand & Chighart In Lockegrave East Lehros ! They nearly got the 'acting' correct !!

The hand is quite easy, and the image is not at all faded .......................

mb

[speleobat2]

Carol

[speleobat2]

Hi all,

Just got the 1861 census from SP and Adam was the Chief Clerk of the Queen's Remembracer not the Chief Clerk of the Lunine Lemembransin! I have to think that those transcriptions were done by the computer and not a person. The handwriting on the 1861 census isn't great, but I was able to read it without much trouble.

Carol

[Alan SHARP]

One hand giveth, and another hand, taketh away !

Alan SHARP.

[Currie]

Hello all,

SP has some Wills for this lot.

The Exchequer jobs sound a bit like they have been passed down from father to son. Maybe they are mentioned in the wills. Even the 1803 Exchequer newspaper notice signed by Adam has junior against his name. There may be more than two generations involved.

Amazingly the News Demo appears to still work. Try it and see viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15443&hilit=

Here’s a death notice in the Glasgow Herald for the one who died in 1849 (Page 4, Column 2.) http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=G ... page&hl=en

All the best,
Alan

[Montrose Budie]

Hi all,

Just got the 1861 census from SP and Adam was the Chief Clerk of the Queen's Remembracer not the Chief Clerk of the Lunine Lemembransin! I have to think that those transcriptions were done by the computer and not a person. The handwriting on the 1861 census isn't great, but I was able to read it without much trouble.

Carol

Ancestry have consistently denied that computers are involved in any way, e.g. OCR (optical character recognition) software and the like. I sometimes choose to believe different !


Looking at the 1861 entry, the hand is not that brilliant. Given what we already know, however it's obviously Queen's Remembrancer but it's easy to see how either someone with no background knowledge could read the words as Lunine Lemembransin!, or that OCR or similar software would end up with the same result.

The 'L' for 'Q' and 'L' for 'R' are classic misinterpretations of initial capitals.

mb