1911 census problem

[kenspeckle]

I think must be some problem my Wilkie family was in St George in 1901 census But none can be found in the 1911 I have downloaded every Wilkie in the index Edinburgh Yet I know they were there and a record I thought sounded right and said St George in the index when viewed said at the top of the page St Bernard DANUBE STREET which is away over the other side of town and they always lived in the West End near the Castle this is proving a VERY expensive exercise indeed ... I know that Jessie had a son George in 1909 and she lived at home but not sure if they were still in Spittal St or had moved to Grindlay St by then has any one got an idea on a better approach ?
1901 Name: Alex Wilkie
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinr, Midlothian
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthbert
County: Midlothian
Address: 6 Spittal St
Occupation: Coachman, Domestic
ED: 36
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_364
Household Members:
Name Age
Alex Wilkie 49
Mary Wilkie 43
Annie Wilkie 23
Alex Wilkie 19
Christian Wilkie 16
Jessie Wilkie 14
George Wilkie 9

[kenspeckle]

I just looked at my Fathers Birth cert 1909 and they were def at Grindlay Street then and that's St Giles in the birth

does anyone know what district the 1911 census would call Grindlay St in Edinburgh or would it be the same as birth registers ?
as no one of the surnames WILKIE Alexander,age aprox 59 Mary,age aprox 44 Jessie, age aprox 24 George,age aprox 2 in St Giles or St George 1911
I am baffled ! as family were still at Grindlay St address till 1964

[kenspeckle]

Curses I just found them under 1911 WILHIE JESSIE F 24 ST GILES EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/04 029/00 010

I did a forename search of Jessie with other person George and age 24-26 and when you see the actual document its quite clear that its WILKIE

[AndrewP]

St George was the area based around St George's Parish Church in the west end of the city centre. St Bernard was based around St Bernard's Parish Church in the Stockbridge area of the city, just down the hill from the west end. It would depend on the year as to which registration districts were used at that time. See http://www.talkingscot.com/rds/city-rds-edin.htm for some guidance on this subject.

All the best,

AndrewP

[kenspeckle]

Thanks for the registration District List Andrew

I have written to Scotland People to let them know about the transcription error really was a waste of precious credits as the first one which was wrong was the only one of the age that would fit and I could not find anything on Jessie or George to fit ages so I then though I would download all the Edinburgh Wilkies and go through them to see if I could get names that would match up with the same numbers but nothing was looking promising thats when i thought last change try just forenames and there it was grrrr !
So possibly There are more that are bad transcriptions if a family cant be found

regards lesley in Tasmania

[carlineric]

If you go to "Help With Searching" when you are searching the 1911 census you will find a link to Street Directories for many towns. Using this you can find the enumeration book(s) for the street,

Eric

[Currie]

The Street Index Books for 1911 have been digitised and are available here. http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/re ... ensus.html

They appear to be rather large, slow loading, pdf files. They seemed as if they weren’t going to arrive for me, so I didn’t get to see one, and I don’t know how much help they would be in this sort of situation or even whether the info can be used on SP searches.

The Edinburgh Directory 1911-12 has BMD registration district codes for each street. One of my lot lived in Danube street, that’s St George (1) in the directory, but has St Bernards on the census form as has been mentioned.
http://www.archive.org/stream/postoffic ... 1/mode/2up

Alan

A bit later:
Probably the same as Eric's
Alan

[kenspeckle]

Thanks very much to Andrew Eric & Alan I really appreciate your help the search I did should have been simple just the bad transcription that threw things askew

the good thing is I told Scotland's People what had happened and they have refunded the credits that I wasted which is very decent of them

Cant beat 'Talking Scot' for good helpful people

bets regards lesley in Tasmania

[Montrose Budie]

The Street Index Books for 1911 have been digitised and are available here. http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/re ... ensus.html

They appear to be rather large, slow loading, pdf files. They seemed as if they weren’t going to arrive for me, so I didn’t get to see one, and I don’t know how much help they would be in this sort of situation or even whether the info can be used on SP searches.

The Edinburgh Directory 1911-12 has BMD registration district codes for each street. One of my lot lived in Danube street, that’s St George (1) in the directory, but has St Bernards on the census form as has been mentioned.
http://www.archive.org/stream/postoffic ... 1/mode/2up

Alan

A bit later:
Probably the same as Eric's
Alan

Alan

The answer is in your own post, in that the street index gives the registration district number, e.g. 685-04 for each address. Then go to http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/l ... ricts.html for a list of RD numbers and convert the RD nunber to the name and limit the search to that RD when searching. Alternatively for the cities, see here on TS at http://www.talkingscot.com/rds/rds-intro.htm to get the name of the RD.

It should also be possible to use the RD number directly in the relatively new advanced search, but I've never tried it.

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[AndrewP]

It should also be possible to use the RD number directly in the relatively new advanced search, but I've never tried it.

The advanced search is a powerful database interrogation tool, but takes a bit of getting used to. If you are smart with it, you can get it to run more than one search at a time by using many criteria and structuring them in the right way.

All the best,

AndrewP