Pennuel.

johnniegarve · Post by **johnniegarve** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:57 am

Has anybody come across this unusual female name. West Lothian 1780.

Post by **paddyscar** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:13 am

Hi:

There are 2 instances each in SP Births - OPRs and in 1855-2009, and none in the Catholic registers. No entries for it as a surname in any of these databases either. Checked for a Scottish place name, and it doesn't appear in the Dictionary of Scottish Language.

Frances

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:50 am

Hello Johnnie,

The England/Wales site FreeBMD doesn’t have anything for a Pennuel as a Christian name but there are about 60 or so BMD events for a Penuel ranging from the 1850s to the 1950s. It seems the name was given to both male and female.

Penuel means “the face of God”.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=jps ... 22&f=false

All the best,
Alan

momat · Post by **momat** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:52 am

Similar spelling from biblical times.
Penuel (Hebrew פְּנוּאֵל), also known as the "face of God"

steiner · Post by **steiner** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:03 pm

Hi

I have a "Phanuel" in my tree. I wondered if this is the same name only different spelling etc? Phanuel is a male incidentally.

Drew

johnniegarve · Post by **johnniegarve** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:41 pm

Thanks Folks, it doesn't seem to have been handed down, there's a surprise! "Haw Penniel yer tea's oot", cannae see it.

Lorna Allison · Post by **Lorna Allison** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:20 am

Hello Johnnie

If you are going down the "Penniel" route, we used to climb the Waterloo Monument on Peniel Heugh near Ancrum each Border holiday when I was a kid - it was pronounced "Pinal" by the grandparents. I always wondered where the name came from. Looks like TS has answered that one too!

Lorna

Orlaith17 · Post by **Orlaith17** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:12 am

I know someone named Pennuel in this area. She is known as "Penny" for short. As this person is still alive, I can't put any more information here about her. I had never come across the name before I met her.

johnniegarve · Post by **johnniegarve** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:49 am

From what I've been able to can gather, the name Penuel/Pennuel was used by some of the Grant, Cunninghame & Colquhoun gentry. One of the latter, a Peniel married into the Baillie's of Polkemmet. The Baillie's were the biggest heritors in Whitburn and took a great interest in the kirk and the name was adopted by some of the tenantry, imitation being the sincerest form of flattery. Doubtless the family were up in their loft when the christenings were in progress.

Johnnie.

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