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re Glasgow problem

Post by ASGROOMBRIDGE » Mon May 22, 2006 1:24 pm

Hi everyone,

I need some help from anyone who knows Glasgow circa 1856. My 2 x great grandmother who was living in Annan Dumfriesshire on the 1851 census and family still there on the 1861 died on 14/9/1856 at 49 St Ninian Street, Glasgow. She was 29 years old. Could this have been some kind of hospital as she had Phthisis which I believe to be a form of TB. will try and post the death registration. It looks as though she was buried in the Gorbels so St Ninians Street may be near there.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-555

Many thanks,
Audrey :?: :?: :?:

PS She gave birth in Annan 24/2/1855 and the baby died 6/5/1855. Have posted her death cert very hard to read sorry.

image url added by JustJean
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Post by WilmaM » Mon May 22, 2006 2:11 pm

OK, Saint Ninian Street

On the 1896 OS map of Glasgow Saint Ninian Street can be found [ as you suspected] in the Gorbals.
It ran south from Adelphi Street [ on the Clydeside] to what was then called Govan Street [ running East West through Gorbals Cross] now called Ballater Street.

It's present position is likely to be that of Mosque Street ? but there is still a Saint Ninian Terrace in the vicinity.

Interestingly - the street running parallel, but on the eastern side of the railway line, was called 'Hospital Street'.
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/minstr/minstr04.htm has this snippet;
HOSPITAL STREET
is formed upon the site of St. Ninian's Leper Hospital, founded by Lady Lochow in 1350.
but I imagine that was long gone by 1850!

I can't see any obvious 'hospital' though on any of the maps I've looked at.

A look at sheet VI. 15. 1 at :
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/to ... entre.html
The rest is on sheet VI. 11. 21 at:
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/to ... entre.html
Shows the area in around the time you are researching.

I don't know if this gets you any further but at least you know the area.
Wilma
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Post by JimM » Mon May 22, 2006 3:38 pm

Hi Audrey
Not sure if this would have been a hospital...(A look at the census via the address index would confirm.... I'll take a peek the next time I'm at the Mitchell)

If you look at the "whom certified" section, you will see that she was seen by Dr Bryce Rankin the day before she died (why not the same day if she was in a hospital?)
You will see that the same doctor also seen Mary Campbell on the day before she died .... at 71 Crown street.

Is doctor Rankin a jinx or what? 8-[

Jim
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Post by ASGROOMBRIDGE » Mon May 22, 2006 8:04 pm

Thank you Wilma and Jim, I noticed that the GP had seen both ladies that was why I thought it might be a hospital or Sanitorium.
Seems a long way to take the poor woman.


regards,
Audrey
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Post by JimM » Wed May 31, 2006 7:30 pm

Hi Audrey
Had a look at 49 St. Ninians street on the 1851 census...
It was not a hospital.
There were 15 families living at the address.... most probably a tenement building.

Jim
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Post by ASGROOMBRIDGE » Wed May 31, 2006 9:00 pm

Hi Jim,

What a puzzle, I have never looked up a census from just the address but will have a go and see if any of the names belong to family.

Thank you,

Audrey
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Re: re Glasgow problem

Post by nelmit » Wed May 31, 2006 9:58 pm

ASGROOMBRIDGE wrote:Hi everyone,

I need some help from anyone who knows Glasgow circa 1856. My 2 x great grandmother who was living in Annan Dumfriesshire on the 1851 census and family still there on the 1861 died on 14/9/1856 at 49 St Ninian Street, Glasgow. She was 29 years old. Could this have been some kind of hospital as she had Phthisis which I believe to be a form of TB. will try and post the death registration. It looks as though she was buried in the Gorbels so St Ninians Street may be near there.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-555

Many thanks,
Audrey :?: :?: :?:


PS She gave birth in Annan 24/2/1855 and the baby died 6/5/1855. Have posted her death cert very hard to read sorry.

image url added by JustJean

Hello Audrey,

Although Lucinda may have lived in Annan in 1851 she had a son James in 1856 in Hutchesontown 11 days before she died. It looks as though he may also have died in 1856. :cry:

JAMES SEMPLE

Event(s):
Birth: 03 SEP 1856 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM SEMPLE Family
Mother: LUCINDA MURRAY

Kind regards,
Annette M
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Post by Andy » Wed May 31, 2006 11:54 pm

I've not looked but what did James Semple die of? It's virtually impossible for a baby to die of T.B. if the mother already had it.

Nice thing about bacterial infections is that babies born to a mother sufferring from a SERIOUS bacterial infection usually have life-long immunity.

Viral infections .... a different story!
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Post by JimM » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:39 am

ASGROOMBRIDGE wrote:Hi Jim,

What a puzzle, I have never looked up a census from just the address but will have a go and see if any of the names belong to family.

Thank you,

Audrey
Hi Audrey
Luckily the street index was at the Mitchell so i found the street easliy..
Unfortunately 49 St. Ninians street covers 4 pages in the 1851 census
I made a note of the head names

Thomson
Wm Keenan
Alex Cochran
Helen Henderson
Marg McGill
Robt Wright
Cath McKinnon
George Farest (?)
Wm Cosgrove
Ann Bryson
Ann Campbell
Catherine Stewart
Richard McMurdo
Agnes Wright
John Pollock
Thos Seaton


Jim
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Post by ASGROOMBRIDGE » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:57 am

Thank you Jim,

None of those names ring a bell, I wonder after reading the other posts if the family went to live in Glasgow and then returned to Annan as that is where my great grandfather George Semple lived.

Thank you,
Audrey
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